Avani Kothary
Until I started going to school at University of Michigan, I
never thought I benefited from Affirmative Action. What I
realize in the past few years is that the way I've benefited
is through the experiences that I have with various people
who go to school there. I feel that if Affirmative Action did
not exist, the interactions I had with the various students
on this campus would not have existed and the stories we've
shared have been the things that have taught me the most and
have helped me to grow and become the person I want to be.
My name is Avani Kothary I am an Indian American attending
school at the University of Michigan
Diane Gross
All institutions of higher education would not be diverse but
for affirmative action programs. We've seen that in places
where there's been a retreat on affirmative action and
admissions have plummeted. And what it really does is it
reaches out to give opportunities to students who wouldn't
know of those opportunities or be able to take part in those
opportunities but for the programs. And everybody in an
institution, regardless even if they know it or not, benefits
from having those different perspectives in their classrooms.
I remember, in law school, and this is an example of gender.
But, in law school you know, you have a criminal law class
with a discussion of rape and the impact that it has on
women. If women were not in the room to have a conversation
then it would be totally different. Having a conversation
about Brown vs. Board of Education, or employment
discrimination or anything of that nature, you can't have the
same conversation, you can't learn the same depth out of that
if you don't have different perspectives there. I think if
the Supreme Court decides that diversity is a compelling
interest, it is a tremendous victory, starting with the
precedent set in Bakke, which acknowledged that diversity
plays a factor and should play a factor in admission. It says
to schools out there that you can continue to do programs to
increase diversity and it leaves a lot of discretion in the
hands of universities to be able to continue to do that. I
think that depending on, obviously, what the Court says, by
limiting the University of Michigan program and saying that
that specific program is not appropriate, it leaves a lot of
opportunity for schools to fashion other remedies and other
programs that can really work to get to diversity by
acknowledging that it is a compelling interest.
My name is Diane Gross. I am a woman. I graduated from New
York University Law School and I am a civil rights
Attorney.
Karen Narasaki
Affirmative action is still necessary because we still don't
have equal opportunity in this country. Unfortunately, our
schools do not have equal resources and many children,
particularly these impoverished inner cities, dont have the
same access to quality advanced placement programs, to
extracurricular activities, to the many resources that other
students have that they need to get when they want to apply
for college. I, myself, am an affirmative action baby. I was
admitted to Yale under an affirmative action program, which
provided me with the opportunity to show my talent and to
prove myself. And that's what affirmative action is all
about. It's not a handout, it's an opportunity. When I was
applying to college over 25 years ago, there weren't very
minorities in the Ivy League schools. I attended a blue
collar high school where less than ýý of the students went on
to any kind of education including vocational college. But I
was given the opportunity to show what I could do to prove
the leadership that I knew that I had. Yale gave me an
enormous opportunity to learn from people from all over the
country and all over the world. I think my life would have
been very different because it was in college where I was
given the opportunity to see, both how people are the same in
terms of their shared aspirations and dreams and challenges,
but also how they're different because of the cultures that
they bring and how each of these different backgrounds has a
certain strength. And that when you bring that together, it
can be a very beautiful thing. I think the debate over
affirmative action is an important one because we as a nation
have become increasingly diverse and it's absolutely critical
that all of us learn how to work with people who have
different backgrounds from ourselves, who learn how to live
in neighborhoods with people of different religions, of
different races, of different experiences. And that's what's
made America the great country that it is today and thats
what's going to keep us a great country tomorrow.
I'm Karen Narasaki. I'm Executive Directory of National
Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium.
L'Heureux Lewis
I don't think it's difficult to imagine what the University
of Michigan would be like without affirmative action. All we
have to do is simply go to a library and look at the pictures
of old classes. When we look and we veer past white male face
after white male face after white male face, we would realize
what will occur if affirmative action isn't used to achieve a
different class, a different look, a representative look. I
grew up in a working class neighborhood in Connecticut where
my father was the first black police officer on the police
force, where my father was one of the first black state
troopers. Affirmative action has been with me and with my
family. So when I went to school, I understood that the
opportunities that I had were a product of that and even
though I was in an area that wasn't the inner city, I knew
that in order for my life to be successful and to have
opportunities affirmative action had to be there. Affirmative
action has really been important to me. At the University of
Michigan, as a benefactor, there's offices, a multi-ethnic
student affairs office, there's a black student union, there
are resources for students of color that I know wouldn't have
been there if it weren't for affirmative action. For me it's
not a point of contention or anger because I realize that
most folks in their own arrogance refuse to see that which is
placed in front of them and when I continue to interact with
them, hopefully by showing them the glaring contradiction in
their views, maybe they'll at least take note. They may not
agree with me, but will realize affirmative action did impact
their lives.
I am L'Heureux Lewis. I am African-American. I go to
University of Michigan
Lia Epperson
I was fortunate enough to attend Harvard University for
college. I attended Stanford University for Law School. And
those are two academic institutions that had surprisingly low
numbers of African-Americans enrolled in those schools just a
generation ago. And if it weren't for affirmative action,
people like me who are interested in pursuing higher
education like that and were interested in reaching as high
as we possibly could, did not have an opportunity like that.
In addition to being a recipient of affirmative action and
being a part of affirmative action policy I also worked
part-time in the admissions office and I saw firsthand that
there are a tremendous amount of people who are highly
qualified and very motivated and interested in pursuing
higher education at a place like Harvard. Far too many people
apply to be able to grant admission to all of them and so
Harvard takes a very specific look, an individualized look at
every application. It involves both a rigorous look at their
academic levels, their test scores, but also things that set
students apart from each other: who is a special viola
player, who is a student from Iowa, who is an
African-American student, who comes from a background where
they might be the first person from their family to go to
college. Those are all things that Harvard considers in their
admissions policy and thinks of as very important factors. So
race is one of the many factors like this. Taking race as one
of many factors in considering admissions to colleges and
universities, has been a very positive change in America's
admission policies over the last generation or so. I think
that it affords students from all walks of life, from all
different backgrounds, an opportunity to be in an environment
where they see people whose experiences are different from
their own, to be able to learn from what those people have to
share and to say, and I think that it provides some
beneficial cross-racial interaction that really does not take
place anywhere else in America. In my view, if the Court
upholds the general policy of affirmative action, it will
mean that the Court's decision has reinforced the fact that
racial integration and diversity are central to the fabric of
America and central to what we believe in, in terms of
creating fair opportunities for people and I think that's the
most important thing to remember.
I am Lia Epperson. I am Assistant Counsel with
NAACPLDF.
Guy Johnson
In a lot of ways, I didn't just come through the school as a
product of affirmative action. The community that enabled me
came through. Meaning there's statistical studies that show
that people of color particularly who benefit from
affirmative action programs will go back to those communities
at a higher rate, will go back to more impoverished
communities or less economically advantaged communities to
work there.
My name is Guy Johnson. I'm a Columbian, a Latino. I go to
Boalt Hall, University of California Berkeley.
Leo Grandison
I know people who went to UCLA under affirmative action and
have come back to become doctors and are doctors in their
community. Other people that I know became lawyers, teachers.
Teachers, specifically, teachers are really important to come
back to the community to teach within these communities so
they can pass their knowledge on. I wouldn't be in the place
that I am now without affirmative action. I came in to the
University as the last class that benefited from affirmative
action in California in 1997. I was encouraged to go to,
before I went to the university, to go to community college
so that I could brush up on my skills, etc., but I knew I was
qualified, so I went ahead and applied and with affirmative
action, I was accepted and excelling. So I think it's really
important.
My name is Leo Grandison. I'm of African descent and I go
to University of California, Santa Cruz.
Jo'ie Taylor
The debate over affirmative action pulls me in a lot of
different directions and a lot of different emotions. As
somebody who has personally benefited from affirmative action
and sees affirmative action as a way, a proactive step to
level the playing field for people of color and women.
I grew up in Los Angeles, California, so for me it
definitely has benefited students and people of color and
women in the state of California. And post-Proposition 209
and post- Standard Policies 1 & 2, in the University of
California system, you have seen a major decline in students
of color in important and well known universities like
University of California, Berkeley and UCLA. So I think
looking at states like California and Texas and Florida and
Washington where affirmative action is no longer in place,
you definitely can tell why it's needed and how it does
benefit people of color and women. I think the debate around
affirmative action particularly how people are framing it in
terms of diversity, that using race isnt really creating a
diverse campus or a diverse nation--it infuriates me. I just
think that it's ridiculous not to say that using race in
admissions or recruitment and retention is important because
racism is a factor in the United States, in higher education,
and in employment, so eliminating race is saying that racism
doesnt exist; and with hate crimes, racial profiling, it's
definitely relevant, you know, we see it every day.
My name is Jo'ie Taylor I'm the President of the United
States Student Association I am a graduate of University of
Pittsburgh
Gloria Reina Bowen
I think affirmative action as a policy is needed and is
necessary because it's a redress and it's a remedy for past
wrongs that have happened 50, 100, 300 years ago-not only for
African-Americans, but for people of color and women alike.
So as I said, it is a redress to redo past wrongs that were
done in America's early history. Race-based policies have had
a positive impact on most campuses, in my eyes, by adding
diversity to the school that wouldn't be there if it wasnt
for these race-based policies. I believe that these schools,
if they weren't commanded to get these policies, they
wouldn't allow these students in and the schools would just
be of one ethnicity and of one background. Just so people
could have a better learning experience and a better way of
looking at things. If the United States Supreme Court upholds
the basic underlying principal of affirmative action, I feel
it is something that we can work with, something that we can
develop and just continue the fight to get it to where we
need it to go.
My name is Gloria Reina Bowen II. I am of African American
and Columbian descent, and I attend school at the University
of Florida in Gainesville, Florida.
Marisa Demeo
Colleges and universities that use race-conscious admissions
have made those universities a better place for everyone to
learn-all students, minority students, white students. And
they have prepared our future leaders for the military, for
the business and for the policymakers in our society.
Campuses are definitely richer environments because of the
diversity on them today than they were, say 30-40 and 50
years ago. It used to be an all white male learning
environment. Now we have women, now we have minorities and
that makes it a better place to learn about how to lead our
country, which is a diverse environment. If the Supreme Court
says that affirmative action is still valid, that race can
still be used as a method to select people for admission, but
says the University of Michigans program itself doesn't work
for the Constitution, what we have is a mixed decision. They
got it right as far as we still need to use race. They got it
wrong to say that University of Michigan's program wasnt
narrow enough. University of Michigan's program was a very
narrowly tailored program to really make a diverse student
environment. I work for an organization called Mexican
American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, MALDEF, and we
are the national latino civil rights organization. We are
involved in the University of Michigan case both in the
litigation in the courts, but also on the policy and media
side, getting out the message that affirmative action is
still needed today to make our society better.
My name is Marisa Demeo. I am a Latina and I went to
Princeton University.
Luis Alfonso Torres
I am the son of a migrant farmer and a caring Mexican
teacher. My parents emigrated here in 1980. The affirmative
action policies that have mostly affected the Latino
community, I would say, are those dealing with the
recruitment efforts. Getting students from high school to
attend universities, to enroll in universities, to stay at
universities of their choice, allowing them that access that
they would not have otherwise if it weren't for these
efforts. Worse case scenario, without affirmative action: I
think that I would have either gone directly into the work
force to try to contribute something to my family in terms of
income, which I think is something very noble, but
nontheless, education I think is the better path for all
students. Affirmative action benefits everyone. We are all
connected. We cannot live in a society of disassociated
individuals. We live together, we grow together, we learn
together and when everyone comes together and shares their
experiences and shares their life we see that we are indeed
all connected, that what we do affects each other and this is
how we build a society that cares and that can heal and that
can love each other. This is the only way that we include
everyone and it is when everyone is included that we see that
we are tied together.
My name is Luis Torres.
I am a Latino. I go to Georgetown University here in
Washington.
Adam Bailey
As an Indian, affirmative action gave me the ability to learn
to expand my knowledge so I could help my community back
home. I dont think it would have been possible to go to
Harvard without affirmative action. Harvard has a fairly
aggressive policy on admitting minority students and even as
it was, the American Indian population at Harvard was really
small. I think that it benefits everyone to have minorities
represented because being a minority and living in different
communities and being from different backgrounds gives you a
life experience that is different from what other people have
had. The majority community in the United States probably
doesn't know what goes on on a reservation every day, doesn't
know what goes on in an extended family, maybe in a Latino
community or knows how people grow up in crowded housing or
people grow up on reservations without running water or
phones. People don't know that on general or in large and I
think that being in places like Harvard or being on
universities anywhere gives people the ability to have a lens
into those communities through the experiences of their
friends and their classmates. It gives them an understanding
of how things really are in America. When opponents of
affirmative action say that it has no impact I think that
they dont realize the value of a diverse community or a
diverse background of experiences. I think that they don't
realize that even a small change in a disadvantaged community
creates a large ripple effect and helps the community at
large.
My name is Adam Bailey. I am a member of the Oklahoma
Choctaw tribe and I went to Harvard University.
Nicholas Centino
At the University of California, Santa Barbara, the
demographics of students of color has remained pretty
consistent with the numbers before affirmative action was
eliminated. But what has happened system wide at the
University of California is that the students of color are
being segregated out of flagship schools like UC Berkeley,
like UCLA, and into some of the other schools, less popular
schools in the University of California system. So what you
have is a new form of segregation within higher education
implemented by the elimination of affirmative action in
California.
My name is Nicholas Centino. I am a Chicano and Asian
student at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
Jackie Bray
To be honest, it's hard to imagine the University of Michigan
without affirmative action because so much of my experience
there has been centered around the people that I've have met
and conversations that I've have had that I know I wouldn't
have had without affirmative action and so much of my
experience, just in academia, has been about being around
people who bring different things to the table. And I can't
imagine the University of Michigan, without affirmative
action, being as wonderful and productive a community to be a
part of. I think though that the first thing that we have to
understand about affirmative action at the University of
Michigan is that the University of Michigan needs to be
responsible and uphold a certain standard of community and a
certain environment that acknowledges, understands the
history that we came from. And without affirmative action,
we're sending the message that we don't understand the
history as it has to relate to race that our universities
come out of, and that our society comes out of. And so as an
academic institution, to be in an academic institution, it's
really important for me that their policies reflect an
accurate picture of where we've all come from and affirmative
action sends a message to the student body that they
understand that.
My name is Jackie Bray. I am a white woman who grew up in
the suburbs of New Jersey and I currently am at the
University of Michigan studying History.